Horse Girls & Ghost Girls (w/ Julia Shiplett)

Carolina and Devin discuss the romantic histories of the new President and VP elects and then are joined by comedian/writer Julia Shiplett to discuss the trials and tribulations of middle school and how PEN15 perfectly captures it. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee for privacy information.

by True Romance with Carolina Barlow and Devin Leary